175. Awakening to Higher Consciousness - Adam Apollo

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How can you experience your human energy body? 

Are the chakras more than just spheres of energy along the spine, as is so often explained?

What does quantum entanglement have to do with spiritual awakening?

What role does DNA play apart from containing your ancestral lineage?

In this FASCINATING episode, Adam Apollo dives deeply into these questions and more. Adam has presented at the White House, the United Nations, and at international conferences and festivals. He is a wealth of information on advanced physics, future technology, human spirituality and how all of these things converge. He has many, many credits to his name - a mind-blowing list of initiatives and projects that cover a huge range of passions, but to summarize he is dedicated to achieving a sustainable and thriving interplanetary culture. 

• Discovery of the human energy body.
• How the chakras are the means to which matter is constructing itself into physicality. 
• Unified Harmonic Matrix video: http://adamapollo.info/sacred_knowledge/unified_harmonic_matrix/
• What role does quantum entanglement have on spiritual awakening?
• What agendas might be playing out with misinformation and fallen geometries?
• www.adamapollo.com 

00:00.00
karagoodwin
Hello and welcome to the meditation conversation I'm your host Kara Goodwin and I'm so excited today to have a special guest Adam Apollo Adam has presented at the white house. United Nations and at international conferences and festivals. He's a wealth of information on advanced physics future technology human spirituality and how all of these things converge and he has many many credits to his his name. Ah mind blowing list of initiatives and projects that cover a huge range of passions but in a quick summary. He's dedicated to achieving a sustainable and thriving interplanetary culture. So welcome Adam what a joy to have you here.

00:49.38
Adam Apollo
Thank you so much Kara it's really a pleasure to be here with you.

00:53.30
karagoodwin
So I I just wanted to start by expressing a little bit about the asynchronicities that brought us here today because um, it went from just kind of seeing you on on Tv really. And um to all these synchronicities that built up to where it was like okay I would love to have a chat with him on the on the podcast. It started with I was just having a conversation a friend of mine asked me something about the chakras something kept coming up with her with the throat and she didn't really, she's like can you just. Baseline tell me about the chakras. So I called her and I found myself talking to her about this chakra activation that I had had a few weeks before and even as I'm talking about it with her I'm like why am I why am I telling her this like this is like. Ah, tangent you know this isn't what she asked. It's probably too like much in the the other direction that I'm going to lose her. Um, but I was explaining this like where my chaers I'd had these whole bands. You know like a whole chakra. Band that was activating kind of 1 at a time and as that happened I was just getting this knowledge of of like how different elements are attached to different chakras and how like everything in the universe is in the chakras and we can access it all through this. So. I again. Um I find myself like what am I doing why am I telling her this so then I watch ah like 2 or 3 hours later I mean literally this was just the same day like the same evening. Um i.

02:27.50
Adam Apollo
The same day. Okay, yeah.

02:35.10
karagoodwin
Randomly pick an interview with ed to watch and um, you know Ruben's been on the podcast a couple times I love interview with ed I I didn't know your name at the time I just was drawn to this. you know one you know I was like oh I'll check out this Adam Apollo character so I turn it on I'm really enjoying it and lo and behold you start talking about ah your ah you talk about shocker activations and how you had experienced them very organically and how you could. Connect with you could understand that everything in the universe was in your chakres and basically everything I had just told her that I have not heard anybody else talk about ah you start talking about just a couple of hours later so I was like mind blown.

03:16.90
Adam Apollo
Ah, Wow! So beautiful.

03:24.85
karagoodwin
And I shared that with ah my community and ah one of my somebody a friend of mine in this community basically was talking about how recently she had been inspired to watch your episode again on interview with Ed and we had never talked about this before but she had. Also been drawn to it um to watch it a second time and then she had a really powerful dream with you where she went through this portal and it was unlike anything she'd ever experienced before and as she's telling me this I'm like oh my god.

03:52.50
Adam Apollo
Right.

04:00.47
karagoodwin
Dreamt about him like I totally had forgotten that I'd had some sort of dream with you and I couldn't remember I couldn't catch any of the details. But I told ah when she said that I was like yes last night I Dreamt about him and then this same person.

04:11.89
Adam Apollo
Wow.

04:16.82
karagoodwin
Runs into you at a conference completely. Unexpectedly like the next week or ah, like so synchronistic with the timing. It was so quick I was like okay I have got to reach out and um.

04:17.42
Adam Apollo
Yeah, um.

04:26.23
Adam Apollo
Only within.

04:32.18
Adam Apollo
Smooth.

04:32.47
karagoodwin
So and I think I have Dreamt about you since then to some kind of activating dream as well. So anyway, super fascinating from my perspective. Thank you so much for whatever you're doing in the ether to help all of us. So beautiful.

04:38.17
Adam Apollo
Um, sleep.

04:49.30
Adam Apollo
That's an honor. Thank you care.

04:51.93
karagoodwin
So Well, as I mentioned there are a lot of ways you know you have so many so many topics that you're an expert on and so many ways that we could take this interview. Um, you have knowledge on a wide array of topics from geometries. Sound frequencies to galactic relations to spiritual awakening to advance physics and more so preparing for this episode I was mentioning before we recorded it was like being a kid in the candy store like oh my God I could ask him anything. Um. I think that a great place for us to start for the purposes of this podcast would be your spiritual awakening Story I think it'll really appeal to listeners. So if you don't Mind. Let's start with that and I'll just reference again. The interview with Ed You have a 2 wo-part series that goes into a lot of detail around this which is really Fascinating. So.

05:41.31
Adam Apollo
Um, listen.

05:47.10
karagoodwin
People can find that to ongaia and Vimeo. But I've done way too much talking. Please Adam the floor is yours.

05:54.62
Adam Apollo
Ah I've enjoyed every moment of it. Thank you, thank you? Yeah, it was really ah it was really a beautiful and magic moment sitting in Gaia. Essentially there to. Check out a couple of my friends who are speakers there. Caroline Cory in particular and Marianne Williamson was there that day. It's really beautiful and potent day of presentations at Gaia and um, your friend is it Lucia or Lucia Lucia okay

06:26.26
karagoodwin
Luce Lucia aha

06:28.73
Adam Apollo
Yeah I look over at her and she looks at me and she's just like I just had a dream about you and um, it was It was a beautiful moment because I I felt like I was kind of rolling Ninja like I I wasn't a speaker I was just kind of hanging out and. Um, but she caught me and ah just a really beautiful heart and beautiful being and I'll just say as ah, a primer that I um have been traversing the astral so much throughout my life that I developed some different mechanisms for essentially.

06:47.57
karagoodwin
Yeah.

07:04.55
Adam Apollo
Um, enabling myself to do more work than I'm always conscious of in the moment like that I can do multiple things in multiple places and while I'm asleep and while I'm doing other stuff and lots and lots of work in the Dream world.

07:08.18
karagoodwin
Um.

07:20.90
Adam Apollo
Ah, but then I don't always have to remember it all at the same time or recall all of it or be present with all of it and a lot of times that that information and that experience will catch back up with me and I'll have a dream specifically where that event occurs or um. You know, essentially have the memory of the experience that I I didn't necessarily have concurrently to the moment that it was happening so to speak So That's been a really fascinating journey for me to play with um you know with the the layers of the self. Um.

07:48.22
karagoodwin
Um, isn't that fast and leading. Yeah right.

07:59.19
Adam Apollo
And you know to to take that back to really the beginning. Um I often start with the story of essentially discovering that I have a human energy body. And it wasn't really the beginning because I also went through some tragedy in my life and in my family. My mom dies in a car accident. Um, my dad's you know heart and life is shattered my stepbrothers you know, go into deep trauma. Um, and. I started really questioning everything and that's really where it began because I stopped taking information for granted I stopped taking truth for granted and I I always had felt in school like I wasn't getting the whole picture. But. After that experience I really started asking the hard questions and that led to yeah, being fifteen years old and I had an older friend a couple years older than me and he had a car you know and we'd go hang out and play hackysack and. Philosophize and we had conversations about certain things like how is it possible. You could feel it when someone's looking at you from across the room. How is it possible that you could feel your ears burning if somebody's talking about you like these are common statements that we have. As a culture collectively and yet there is no mechanism for that. There's no science behind it. There's nothing you know and then how does all this you know special martial arts stuff that's in all these legends happen and how is it possible that this guy and this you know. You know video essentially like cooks a steak with his hand. You know we had all of these reference points and essentially we did a bunch of experiments and those led to this discovery of this vibratory field that I experienced the first time between my hands by. Putting my fingertips together like this and really slowly separating them and I was just focusing on the space between them and then suddenly I could see it I could see this fluid streaming between my fingertips. And I could wiggle it and I could see the sparks in the field and feel the pressure on my fingertips and the tingles and suddenly something inside of me just popped open and it was like oh my god it was as if.

10:34.75
Adam Apollo
Ah, you know I joke about like it was like I finding the force you know discovering The force is real because yeah I was a Star Wars fan and yeah, but like this tangible field of vibratory force around my body like.

10:36.20
karagoodwin
And yeah.

10:51.70
Adam Apollo
The more I tested it the more I played with it the more applicable I found it was to anything like I could close my eyes and locate an object in the room based on tingles in my hand I could blindfold myself and do martial arts with my homie and we could get faster and faster and faster just by going off of the feeling. Of the field and and I started to essentially it was as if this gateway opened and I unlocked this as I call it a koshic library within my being that I had been kind of stashing books in in my consciousness for many many many many lifetimes. And I didn't know that's what it was for for years. It took probably a couple of years until I was about 18 before I started actually having such intense visceral past life experiences that I knew for certain that that's what was really going on. Um. But initially my journey was just as you described it was like getting in touch with this field of energy started to open up and awaken these different planes inside of my body in each of those planes I became aware was chakra. And you know I had Barbara Ann Brennan's book at some point light emerging and she's validating as a Nasa astrophysicist that the human energy field is in all of these cultures around the world and. As I experienced each of these chakra fields awakening I experienced them not as 1 thing not like as this is the will chakra you know or like this is the body chakra or something like that I realized that each one.

12:32.71
karagoodwin
E.

12:39.75
Adam Apollo
Is actually a dynamic spectral interface an energetic elemental interface with reality and so the root chakara. Is actually about fire air earth water and spirit just as the ancients have said just as the medicine wheel shows us just as you know all of these cultures express. But what does that actually mean it means that our experience. Of thermodynamics and heat and all of that fire you know or aerodynamics how air flows how breath moves how all of these things happen respiration to. The sort of hydrodynamics of water in our body and water around us in the water cycle and et etc to the geoynamics of the earth down to the biological geotructures of our bones and our flesh and our skin like this is. Actually the way matter constructs itself in the physical world. This is not just like an idea or like an energetic this is physics and and I began as I opened up echakara to realize there's a different spectrum at each layer and. This led to essentially be having this vision one day where I was sitting on a couch with my buddy and they were playing tech in to my friends and I'm listening and you know Jimmy Buffett comes on with cheeseburger in paradise you know on the Cd player and I'm watching them play. And all of a sudden I just kind of like go into a daydream. It seems like but I I really phase out and suddenly I'm in this vision and I essentially have a vision where I see how the eye is part of a body is part of The land is part of the earth is part of the earthmoon system as part of the solar system as part of the galaxy as part of the galactic cluster as part of the universe and that the universe is actually part of an energetic fractal holographic thread that's weaving the structure of space-time itself. At the smallest levels forming protons forming atoms forming dna forming cells in our body forming the eye that we perceive it through.

15:05.54
Adam Apollo
And that the biggest things in the universe information-wise are actually stored in the smallest spaces inside of our body and I spent years beginning to unpack this and what I realized is that the whole universe is this beautiful fractal holographic you know spectral system of music. It's it's you know it's the rainbow over and over and over again essentially and it's all interconnected and every time you transcend you're into a new octave that mirrors lower octaves. You never? It's not like you know you just ever end 1 thing and enter another. You. You die in your reboard you go through another pathway you you choose a new adventure and um and that's you know that's the heart of my spiritual awakening and my journey has been coming to understand this beautiful expression of divine perfection that it is to be a conscious being. Living in the universe.

16:06.90
karagoodwin
That's amazing. So I think that you may be the first and only person to have cheeseburger in paradise as your backing track for spiritual awake and but but.

16:13.61
Adam Apollo
Ah, yeah, seriously I know with Jimmy Buffett like god yeah.

16:21.31
karagoodwin
Oh wow! Wow! Thank you for taking us through all that that's it's amazing and I know again I'll just reinforce for people to please do check out that interview with Ed because you know you do start like as you start going into university you have all these past lives.

16:26.19
Adam Apollo
Now.

16:40.20
karagoodwin
With you know this soul mate that it's just this amazing weaving of these in this unpacking of just event after event where it just gets more and more mysterious and and it's so expansive to hear these things and to.

16:46.37
Adam Apollo
Now.

16:59.83
karagoodwin
Be able to experience them through you So that's really beautiful.

17:00.64
Adam Apollo
Thank you and also if if someone is like really intrigued by the idea of this universal harmonic matrix I have a ah different presentation from actually it's from contact in the desert. Um. Which occurred right before I did those interviews with Ruben because he came and actually did the filming for this um presentation that I did and that's on Youtube and you just go to search for a unified harmonic matrix Adam Apollo um

17:23.50
karagoodwin
Ah, okay.

17:35.33
Adam Apollo
And you can find it or unified matrix Adam Apoly you'll find it if you just go to my channel but there's an old old 1 which was like done a long long time ago. But I try to direct people to the new one. The old one still shows up because it's got like a lot of views. Um, so.

17:39.39
karagoodwin
Okay.

17:50.56
karagoodwin
Um.

17:54.80
Adam Apollo
But the new one has my sigil on it and it's it's ah yeah, it's a pretty pretty good deep dive into the physics and the mechanics and the nature of this ah formula that I essentially have been carrying around for however, many lifetimes. Um, and dispersing on planets and touring my best to help onboard people to this understanding. Um, so yeah, please please check that out if you're interested.

18:12.78
karagoodwin
And I want amazing I'll yeah I'll put that link in the show notes for sure to make it easy for people to find it. So okay.

18:25.85
Adam Apollo
Thank you.

18:30.97
karagoodwin
I Want to talk about Quantum entanglement and so I'm gonna ask you to speculate because um I I was listening to something that you were some presentation you were giving and now I can't remember which one it was um.

18:32.80
Adam Apollo
Okay, let's go.

18:47.94
karagoodwin
But you start talking about Quantum entanglement and it got me thinking about awakening and spiritual awakening of course and so in some of the transcendental experiences that I've had or like the multidimensional traveling that's happened.

18:50.82
Adam Apollo
Um, yeah.

19:04.80
karagoodwin
Um, I have seen geometries as the underlying structure with inner sight but like that geometries are what is kind of contained within everything and and you know if we could peel back the layer of matter you know we can see geometry and. That fractalization as you talk about like I've kind of seen how they're like they can be kind of like bundled together and fractalized and you know they all have they can have like pairs like if you were to see these fractals and take separate fractals Out. You could pair them up. Um, and when I heard you talking I was like I wonder.

19:34.58
Adam Apollo
Yeah.

19:40.33
karagoodwin
If the higher self uses geometries and quantum entanglement to activate us and like to awaken us so I don't know if you've run across any theories like this or if you've played with thoughts like this. Maybe first if you can just shed some light on quantum entanglement.

19:56.39
Adam Apollo
Um, yeah, absolutely yeah, well, you've yeah, you've picked a perfect topic because it's one of my favorite things to talk about actually and um.

19:58.24
karagoodwin
Clarify that in case, anybody wants to brush up on their physics and then we hit that. Um any thoughts you have.

20:10.18
karagoodwin
All right.

20:13.50
Adam Apollo
I've done extensive work in in unified physics around entanglement and its correlations with human phenomenology and the experiences that we have and that we go through um and so just to lay a little foundation. Ah, you know the. The original sort of dynamics of the study of entanglement emerged in the early nineteen hundreds Einstein called it. You know spooky action at a distance and essentially this idea is that.

20:42.73
karagoodwin
Oh.

20:48.88
Adam Apollo
Ah, occurs from a particular experiment where you take a light beam and you split it into 2 and you measure the charge of the photons traveling through a receptor and what they discovered is that if you change the charge you put it through ah a. Essentially a charge flipping gateway is the best way I could describe it in Layman's terms you flip the charge on one of those photon beams and it turns out that the other beam will also flip automatically meaning that somehow even though they're now separate and they're in 2 different spots. Change on one can automatically change the other and this is not just like a you know little tiny side experiment. This has literally evolved to what they call quantum teleportation which is essentially where you have a whole field of information. You know whether that's in light information and in some cases what they've been doing is actually molecules and atoms storing a particular level of information and then essentially ah transmitting through through shared. Geometric you could say it's like a shared harmonic of geometry and frequency in 2 different locations and having that information move to the new location instantaneously and the chinese have done this um over vast distances to satellites and back. For example.

22:11.99
karagoodwin
Wow.

22:20.78
Adam Apollo
Um, and they've they've pushed the sort of quantum teleportation edge pretty far but it's it's still ah in mainstream physics and mainstream science. It's still one of the most odd and kind of misunderstood areas of physics because the idea. Is still really like it doesn't have any classical basis. You know, just like a lot of quantum mechanics. You know people just think oh like quantum means it's like everywhere all the time and that's not what quantum means at all quantum means to count. It means it's accountable. It means it's discrete. You can actually like measure it it has nothing to do with these entanglement effects like that's that's a different thing. So if you want to talk about things in terms of their super positioning or their connectivity. You know across spacetime what you're actually talking about is entanglement. Not quantum mechanics. Um, although entanglement is a part of quantum mechanics and so on and so forth, but it's 1 of the the hardest ones to kind of pin down and so you know part of the work that I've done in unified physics.

23:18.99
karagoodwin
How can you.

23:34.83
Adam Apollo
Is about looking at the fact that spacetime itself is this geometric holographic lattice in in other words, you know we we see and we've had the experience of something like a hologram most of us have seen a hologram and if you don't know how that works. Essentially what you're doing is you're taking 2 laser light beams and or one laser light beam essentially and you're splitting it into 2 and then you're reflecting it down onto a 3 dimensional object and then the light beam bounces back. And when it's recombined what you have is basically like an interference pattern like a weave and half of that pattern is one side of the object and half the pattern is the other side of the object and then when you bounce that beam that's got that interference pattern off of a mirror you can essentially recreate this. Ah, apparently threedi dimensional looking object that's got you know all the information from both sides. But what's really interesting is that it doesn't matter how big the mirror is that you reflect it off of if you cut the mirror in half you still get the whole object if you make the mirror an itty bitty tiny little. Piece you still get the whole object is just not very visible because there's not much light there right? So you you have less. Ah let's say refinement of that information that's being displayed or ah lower resolution right.

25:01.42
karagoodwin
Okay.

25:06.40
Adam Apollo
But the whole object is still there and and this actually gets really interesting because this same idea applies to black holes in black hole science and their you know big large scale astrophysical thermodynamics in the study of. Giant Galactic black holes and the information theory around them. Essentially what it breaks down to is what we found is that essentially a quarter of the surface area of any event Horizon should contain in that surface area. The information of the entire object which is just like a really fascinating thing I mean that gets into like all kinds of stuff because you're like wait. The surface contains all the information of what's inside of it. How can that be and not only the surface but a quarter of the surface like.

25:50.52
karagoodwin
The whole you know gray. Well.

26:00.53
Adam Apollo
You know one-fourth of the surface and so then the real question is well what is that geometry. What is the quarter of the surface. How does that all work. Well it turns out that a quarter of the surface area of any sphere is also the exact area of the equator. If you take the plane in the equator. That's exactly one quarter of the surface area of a whole sphere. Not a coincidence and and it's also ah you know it just starts to unfold more and more. As we look at the universe because we realize that what are what are protons made of what are electrons if we start to ask these questions and we dig deeper and deeper and then we get to the real question which is what is empty space. And is there even such a thing as empty space and what begins to emerge is that there is no empty space and scientists had ah glimpses of this for a long time. Because they call it the vacuum catastrophe essentially which is like the discovery that there is an essentially gargantuan amount of energy in what we call empty space and how could that be? Well it is because spacetime itself is. A lattice of light and that light lattice has energy and information and it's that light lattice that geometric light lattice that's curving itself into the spheres that we call protons and that curvature. Is essentially this massive gravitational field because Einstein taught us that curvature in spacetime is the same thing as gravity and so protons are these super powerful little gravitational bundles of spacetime and in fact. If they weren't spinning so fast. They would be extremely heavy and you know the mass of a single proton is gargantuan but they happen to be spinning at the speed of light at their horizon like at the equator. They're spinning at the speed of light so they're literally shearing spacetime right there at that speed of light unit and so these little things all the protons all around us making up all these atoms making up your whole body are essentially like little spaceships. They're anti-gravity.

28:40.70
Adam Apollo
They are. In fact, the best antigravity that we know because they literally can float around as if they have almost no mass even though they have Gargantuan mass energy right? baked into them and that's just freaking cool, right? Just that's just freaking cool and.

28:50.98
karagoodwin
Um, yeah, a while.

28:59.43
Adam Apollo
The the protons themselves have geometry and this geometry is essentially what buckminster Fuller unpacked and what I've discovered in my work and I do a course on this in the resonance Academy is that this structure is a geodesic.. It's It's basically like when you're in a dome What you're seeing is actually the same pattern of how light organizes itself in a weave when it's forming a sphere when it's forming one of these you know protons and ah not with straight lines.

29:33.79
karagoodwin
See.

29:35.81
Adam Apollo
Necessarily and angles like that. But but all of the spheres of this these these fundamental planck scale fluctuations of light are nested in with each other in exactly the arrangement that you see all of the intersections of the lines and the bars in the ceiling of the dome.

29:53.82
karagoodwin
Okay, post.

29:54.91
Adam Apollo
And this pattern has a very particular property and that property is that at the top and at the bottom. There's always a pentagonal structure a 5 pointed star right? Root jakra right? and then you have.

30:08.70
karagoodwin
And.

30:12.70
Adam Apollo
5 5 pointed intersections around the upper hemisphere of the dome and then 5 around the lower hemisphere of the dome and one on the bottom. So there's 12 and they make 12 vector equilibrium and each one of those pentagonal pipelines as I dug into it and I started looking at the geometric structure. Of this you know atomic field and I've done renderings of it all the way down like into the actual core matrix of how each of the pentagonal points go into the core. Um, essentially what that each of those pipelines looks like geometrically. Matches the geometric foundation for the structure of Dna so protons are the original fractal geometry for information storage and Dna is the larger fractal.

30:55.36
karagoodwin
Oh really.

31:09.74
Adam Apollo
Of what's going on in each of the protons. So basically all the protons in the universe are storing information but it gets deeper and I'll go one more layer here and then I'll pass back to you because I know I could go on on this for a while. Um, essentially it turns out. That if you count the number of oscillators oscillations inside of 1 proton. Um, essentially the number of oscillations which is ten to the sixtieth inside of the volume of the proton actually equals. The number of planck seconds that have existed in the lifetime of the entire universe within one order of magnitude meaning that literally there's one data point oscillator. You could think of it as a one and zero kind of like data storage unit but more complex than 1 in 0 full spectrum. You know like a quantum data storage for every moment. The universe has existed.

32:07.76
karagoodwin
Um, until.

32:16.94
Adam Apollo
And every proton is storing every moment of the entire Universe's existence.

32:20.95
karagoodwin
Okay, that's mind blowing for sure. So then how does that equate to the Dna like do because I know that that's also kind of our our connection device to like higher realms and things like that is is the Dna and.

32:36.10
Adam Apollo
Yeah, yes, um, well, you're the way that I look at it is that your Dna is not just an information storage structure from your ancestral lineage. It also carries with it sort of the akashic.

32:39.31
karagoodwin
That's that some theories.

32:55.99
Adam Apollo
Information structure of the universe and more importantly, it's It's actually storing your soul's experience line through time. So what you're bringing in your entire soul stream when you incarnate.

33:06.60
karagoodwin
How.

33:12.50
Adam Apollo
And that soul stream is going to adapt your Dna to match you know turning on and off certain genes epigeneically and otherwise to bring through who you are and that's why some kids look very different from their parents. It's not a fluke. It's that their bodies are adapting to the particular gene codes that are traveling with them as a being and of course to wrap all of this back to entanglement. Essentially the idea is that all these protons all have geometric shared information.

33:35.24
karagoodwin
Who.

33:47.10
Adam Apollo
With each other because they've been through similar moments in the Universal timeline and spacetime itself. The fabric of space between all of the matter between all the protons literally acts like wormhole pipelines. The fabric itself. You could think of each thread in the fabric of space is made of a wave of light that essentially can transmit information faster than light because it is light. It's at light speed. So No time is passing meaning that any time there's a shared Geometric Pattern. And a shared vibrational harmonic within that pattern then those fields have Quantum coherence that means they are operating as if they're existing in the same place at the same time. So this opens up exactly you know where you're going which is like. How is it that we dream of each other.. How is it that we connect how is that we see each other well because when we enter into shared information fields those information fields exist as if they are one space that we're entering from 2 different locations. That one space is essentially on the astral plane and that astral plane is a way to kind of organize all of these shared spaces of harmonic information without having to have the same kind of linear dimensionality that we have on the physical plane.

35:17.40
karagoodwin
Right? Wow, There's a lot of great stuff there. Thank you. There's a lot to to consider with that. That's amazing. So if we I know I want to be conscious of time and hopefully we'll have.

35:25.15
Adam Apollo
You're welcome.

35:32.80
Adam Apollo
Yeah I know I went off a long time on that one.

35:35.74
karagoodwin
No, no, not at all. Um, but if if we stay on this geometric path. Um, and I'm am curious about your thoughts on the claims of fallen geometries because there are some spiritual teachers who talk about.

35:39.67
Adam Apollo
Um, yeah.

35:46.24
Adam Apollo
Now. Yeah, thank you.

35:51.98
karagoodwin
Compromise Geometries such as the flower of life. The tree of life etc and they tell their followers to use other geometries and I don't know like do you think these are valid claims or misunderstandings or direct deceptions or like how. How much can people entrap themselves with geometry one way or the other whether it's the flower of death or with an altered geometry that's given to them I don't know what your thought were.

36:18.56
Adam Apollo
I'm so glad you asked about this? Um, you know human trauma is a fascinating thing. Ah and I'll say that in regards to some of this kind of stuff. Perhaps perhaps it's as innocent and as as as light as you know coming from some fear-based experience or trauma or like a really bad trip or you know Whodos um, and also. You know I'm familiar enough with these kinds of architectures of information. Um, because I've dealt with them in the space of extraterrestrial and ufo phenomena for a long time I've been tracking disinformation campaigns for a very very long time. Um, when I met Stephen Greer in 2001. He said that. You know, 90% of all information about extraterrestrials and Ufos is essentially disinformation campaigns designed to make people afraid or believe a certain thing about them because there's been a desire to control that information for a very long time ah to avert panic to steer the public's perception to. Make anybody who talked about it seem crazy so that it would stay kind of behind the curtain. Yeah there's a lot of a lot of mechanisms and agendas essentially baked into that when I see something like this whole idea of the the crisp spiral so to speak and. The writings about the flower of life is actually the flower of death as you start to actually pick it apart what you realize is that essentially what they're saying is an age-old. You know, deeply agenda-based deeply divisive. Ah, phenomena the Christian Church used it a ton and the idea is that this is the good way and this is the 1 true way to enlightenment the 1 true path to immortality or god or source or whatever it is and. Other paths are evil other paths are bad. This is bad if you do this, you're dead right? like you're gonna die well newsf flash I don't give a shit how much you focus on the Cris spiral you are.

38:40.34
karagoodwin
Yeah, right.

38:40.84
Adam Apollo
Going to die life and death is part of the cycle of time like things live and things die but just because your cellular matrix and the physical vehicle that you're inhabiting and co-creating with dies. Doesn't mean you end your being continues to exist you still will be conscious. You will still continue to exist now. That's just the first kind of like sliver on this the next piece that I'll address is that literally the flower of life geometry. Is what makes the atomic structures that we interact with all the time the oxygen you're breathing. Thanks flower of life. You know the nitrogen the cellular the carbon all of these molecular structures are based on the flower life and it turns out that the fabric of space-time itself. Because it's trying to maintain geometric equilibrium. It's built out of a tetrahedral like format and that tetrahedral format which enables this balance of massive amount of energy to stay in beautiful balance with itself. Um. Exist and would you look at that at a plane and any plane level it is the flower of life and and yet you know it's not the only thing it is this flower of life lattice also curves because of gravity because of mass because spacetime curvature makes it possible. For all things and all matter and all mass to exist and guess what geometry that curvature happens around the pentagram. The Pentagon now if we look back in history a little bit What do we see there. We see this massive campaign of the Roman Empire rolling across Europe.

40:23.14
karagoodwin
I Oh yeah.

40:34.94
Adam Apollo
Trying to debase the spiritualities of the indigenous traditions of europe and claim that their geometry this Pentagon pentagram that was used in sacred ceremony to commune with the divine inside of nature to call the rain.

40:39.80
karagoodwin
And.

40:54.60
Adam Apollo
To evoke essentially to do magic which is really just like an advanced form of prayer and they use this powerfully right to do change and to protect themselves and to bring the rain and to keep the land healthy and to stay in balance with life. They knew the geometry. That life is generated through and yet through the Roman Empire and you know the Christian Church essentially they made this perceived to be so evil so dark that to this day.

41:25.90
karagoodwin
I Speak the planet. Yeah.

41:29.41
Adam Apollo
We still think of pentagrams sometimes as oh that's the mark of the devil isn't it but did you know that the symbol of the devil. The guy with the horns is actually pan who is the fertility god for the indigenous european traditions right? We talk a lot about. Recompensating and healing the wounds with the indigenous peoples of North America a lot right? Like how do we heal with our indigenous peoples of this land and how do we honor their traditions and how do we fix that we have not even dealt with the trauma of. The way that our own traditions as as me like I'm a white guy I'm irish and I you know am told to celebrate St Patrick's day and St Patrick's day is the day that celebrates christianity wiping out the indigenous tradition of Ireland right? And so I'm like.

42:16.00
karagoodwin
Oh wow.

42:22.33
Adam Apollo
Wait a second we have to deal with this healing in ourselves too. It's not It's not a 1 or other thing right? and I've worked with indigenous elders and youth in North America for a long time and I did prayer runs for world peace and I did all this work and I learned these traditions I reconnected with my lakota self from past lives. I've done those deep dives and I had to come to terms with the reality that I didn't even know what my own ancestry was about I didn't even know who the irish actually are you try to find out what's irish it's 4 leaf clovers leprechauns and Guinness beer giveme a break like.

42:56.51
karagoodwin
Right? Yeah right.

43:00.94
Adam Apollo
What happened to the root. The roots are actually back to the wisdom of the tro danan sword and chalice staff and stone. The 4 elements you know the wisdom traditions of the land and what the land teaches us and it's not just land wisdom. It's also star wisdom. So I'll just say you know caution any time you ever hear. Somebody say like this is the only right path and what you have believed is evil or dark or bad because when you create that kind of divisive system. You're essentially trying to separate people and make one people think the other people are bad and that is that is the heart of the disinformation campaigns that have done the most damage on this planet and the most recent ones that we've seen were the flat earth campaign. That was a massive destructive divisive plan that played out within the you know progressive community to basically bait anyone who did not have enough critical thinking skills. To pick apart the nature of how perception works or didn't have the scientific basis and isolate them and another one that I've been tracking over the years which you know is a real tricky one for a lot of people to look at but qanon qanon is another massive disinformation campaign.

44:15.99
karagoodwin
And.

44:24.54
karagoodwin
And well.

44:29.63
Adam Apollo
Which suddenly got funded out of the blue when Trump got into office. The first time all of a sudden they had all this funding and when you start looking at the campaigns you can look over and over and over again at the claims and the stories that they've told and they haven't come true.

44:45.40
karagoodwin
Right.

44:47.16
Adam Apollo
But they created an emotional momentum that's like well this is the only true way and if you don't believe this then you're crazy and I did a video literally questioning just a few of the premises that they were laying out and you know I posted it on Youtube one night

44:53.80
karagoodwin
Write.

45:04.38
Adam Apollo
And by the next morning I had over five hundred hate comments coming at me telling me that I was cannibalizing my own audience and blah blah blah like the level of fear and divisiveness that I experienced around that ah made me extraordinarily concerned.

45:07.80
karagoodwin
Oh my gosh.

45:17.94
karagoodwin
Um, then send.

45:22.96
Adam Apollo
And I'm a scientist you know I'm someone who likes to stay out of the political mess and observe actions Observe people's choices I'm not like you don't wave a red flag or a blue flag and get on the team and try to crush the opponent like it's about understanding our differences.

45:27.96
karagoodwin
And.

45:35.92
karagoodwin
Right? Yeah, so well said and I've observed the same thing where it's um, there's been there've been multiple ways that this divisiveness.

45:41.70
Adam Apollo
And how we can actually create a better world.

45:55.40
karagoodwin
Has tried to come in and has been successful. Um, you know that are happening in the mainstream and then are happening in kind of the alternative because when we talk about like those spiritual leaders who use geometryism and I've seen it in. In many different. You know it's not just like 1 group that's doing that it's being echoed through many places and it it very much has so that would not be mainstream really, you know it's kind of alternative spirituality.

46:12.20
Adam Apollo
Yeah.

46:25.88
karagoodwin
Um, but that can make there's something about that with some people who where that can make it more enticing because they don't trust the mainstream So the same thing with qanon.

46:34.69
Adam Apollo
Yeah, yeah.

46:38.71
karagoodwin
You know where it's like well it's not okay now I understand that I can't trust Mainstream So this is not mainstream so it must be right? and then we just try to fit it into our belief system and and alter things to.

46:44.50
Adam Apollo
Right.

46:53.15
karagoodwin
To to do that. But we don't recognize that we're making you know in both ways we don't recognize that the division because it it gets so like us versus them.

46:58.42
Adam Apollo
Yeah, it's essentially you know it's a psychological hook. It's a manipulation play and and there's been studies around this for a very very long time and if you if you've looked into these kinds of how.

47:06.23
karagoodwin
Moving You are.

47:17.56
Adam Apollo
Brainwashing and psychological manipulation occurs. You know one of the ways that it happens is that there is identified a place of concern or weakness in the individual which in this case is the fact that we have been lied to the people that followed the flat earth thing.

47:30.96
karagoodwin
Right.

47:35.94
Adam Apollo
Like they were vulnerable because they could feel that there's not the whole truth is being shared with them that there's more to the story and so many people around the world feel this right now like that there's a lot of wool that's been pulled over their eyes and they're right. There has.

47:40.49
karagoodwin
1 um, yeah. Um, 7.

47:53.26
Adam Apollo
So so that place of that need the feeling of like discomfort that the world is shakier. There's not a grounded foundation like you thought is a very vulnerable place where then a particular idea campaign can go in and hook into that. And say ah well, you're wondering what the real truth is look at this, you know and and it's like with with just enough kind of like backing and you look around and all it takes is you know some bots seeding a bunch of images on Google.

48:13.19
karagoodwin
Exactly yes.

48:26.35
Adam Apollo
You know doing a bunch of photoshoping doing a few blogs here and there that reinforce if you try to search for a term and there can be created this entire false story right? and you know we're seeing it ah recent most recently with this oh shoot. What is it called Fanoria or.

48:31.38
karagoodwin
Brilliant. Yeah.

48:46.17
Adam Apollo
Ah, do you know the one I'm talking about essentially essentially there's a lot of people who think that that our entire story of history from even like one hundred years ago is false and that all of the buildings that were part of these different world expos.

48:46.24
karagoodwin
Now.

48:55.57
karagoodwin
Oh yes, okay.

49:02.62
Adam Apollo
We're actually part of this like advanced civilization that we were made to forget about somehow that like existed like one hundred years ago or two hundred years ago and that hook is just 1 more like here look at this guys focus on this.

49:10.20
karagoodwin
Okay.

49:18.29
Adam Apollo
So that the people that are questioning our history. Don't actually look at where the truth really is which is in atlantis the structures in Egypt the structures in Peru the structures in Bolivia like the massive amazing advanced civilization that did exist in the past. But if you don't look at that and instead you just focus on these fake buildings and whatever you'll miss the whole point you miss the picture so we have to be very vigilant right now about these kinds of theories. Yeah.

49:41.45
karagoodwin
Um, yeah, right? Wow well I want to be respectful of your time I only have 95 more questions for you if you don't mind. But.

49:56.52
Adam Apollo
Ah, maybe we should just do another one. Okay, great.

50:00.58
karagoodwin
Let's do that I would love it. Um Adam if you have a moment tell tell us about what you're passionate about right now and how people can find out more about those projects.

50:10.12
Adam Apollo
Sure. Yeah, So my Magnum Opus of my life is coming together and blooming right now and essentially um, what I'm building is a regenerative operating System. You can think of it as a. Iron man dashboard for 3 D Social connection at scale on the planet where people can take their digital identity back from the massive centralized corporations own and control it themselves. They can also pull their data back. And own and control it through their own computer. They can develop direct peer-to-peer connections with others around the world. So They'll never be throttled their networks will never be limited or you know put through the wizard of Oz Cranker of like you have to advertise you have to pay us in order to reach your blah blah blah right? Like we're all dealing with right now.

51:05.86
karagoodwin
Yeah.

51:08.15
Adam Apollo
Um, but more than a disruption to the social web and to this alternative social network what we're really doing essentially is creating a mechanism to gamify planetary transformation and the way that we're doing that is. We've enabled people to be able to create digital products so you can create your courses you can create your your music albums you can create your video media. You can create your posts. You can any kind of digital media object and you can essentially mint it for free as an nft. So it exists as a non-fungible token this sort of cryptographically secured object and every time you sell it. You can create a royalty table inside of it that royalty table can point to family members of yours. Can point to friends. It can point to people you collaborated with like if you had a video guy help you with the course you can give him a portion of the income but also every one of these includes 1 line that is essentially an impact donation and that impact donation can be 1% or it can be 100 % of the income that you would make from from selling this digital object and you pick the impact sector of your choice. So let's say you're into cleaning up rivers. You know you pick water rights you know and and water restoration you know or you pick disaster relief or you pick you know social justice whatever it is. And then every time that course sells or that album sells or whatever money automatically gets split and goes into this pool for that impact sector and you earn impact tokens that let you basically see how well you're doing in the changemaking that's happening in the world.

52:55.96
karagoodwin
Wow.

52:57.41
Adam Apollo
And then you can go to this actual planetary Dashboard. We call. It. The rows the regenerative operating system experience and you're looking at the planet and you can see all of the validated impact projects that have been validated through one of our other systems called Trust Graph. And see what's happening all over the World. You can filter it by stuff that's water restoration or disaster recovery or fire mitigation or you know you know wind power and solar power projects. Whatever you want and you can see what projects are in that space where the funding's going. How it's going to them based on their trust graph you can go into the projects you can actually see what they're doing how they're doing it What their updates are what's actually happening. So you can then you know sell your music album and it's not like a black box that people's money's going into that they never get to see what happens with it which is all the time right now Instead it's creating the real connection between you and the impact project and what's happening and who those people are.

53:55.46
karagoodwin
I'm right? yes.

54:05.83
Adam Apollo
And you can also go and literally participate in those impact projects and earn more impact tokens and also money tokens for doing that and we're building these partnerships with all of these different groups organizing impact projects organizing land projects. Want Volunteers or that want people to come down and do work trade or do different kinds of you know trade and we're essentially creating a system that's going to channel more money than has ever been seen on this planet towards actual foundational change. And actually supporting the projects that are doing the real work and you know essentially transform Planet Earth back into a paradise.

54:48.10
karagoodwin
That is incredible and I know there are so many more parts to this that are so exciting like the you touched on the trust Network but ah from a social media. You know, just completely changing our experience with social media.. There's just so much. I Mean so much potential and for amazing, amazing change I mean not the least of which is what you focused on which is the all the the nonprofit and the the helping to beautify and and get you know. More out of our earth. Not more out of our earth but to protect our earth and to help it to reclaim what we've lost exactly exactly.

55:30.13
Adam Apollo
Yeah regeneration Essentially yeah and and yet not to say that Earth isn't to Paradise because it is a Paradise still already even and I'll just correct myself there because I notice that's spilled out of my mouth. Yeah, words are words. But.

55:41.97
karagoodwin
Now.

55:45.91
Adam Apollo
We know like the intention and the intention is beautiful and it's seeing this planet becoming stewards of this planet in the way that supports all life in a way that supports the ecosystem and supports us in becoming more balanced and more sustainable with.

55:52.88
karagoodwin
Absolutely.

56:04.91
Adam Apollo
The way we operate with with nature and the and the physical world. So there's a lot of work to do. Ah you know across both physical and social and mental domains and um and the way we're going to do It is is by you know, being that change by doing what's different and being what's different.

56:07.26
karagoodwin
Rent wars.

56:24.40
Adam Apollo
And then helping the masses to actually see it doesn't have to be that hard like they can still do their creative like Tiktok thing you know and and make money you know doing it and at the same time they can be literally supporting people that are on the ground like building the community gardens.

56:31.60
karagoodwin
Um, you know and how.

56:41.91
karagoodwin
Right.

56:43.98
Adam Apollo
And that doesn't have to be exclusive. It doesn't mean 1 way is right or wrong. You can give no matter what your gifts are.

56:47.19
karagoodwin
Um, oh that's amazing. So beautiful. Well thank you so much Adam I have just had a blast. This has been so much fun I thank you for all the work you're doing um.

56:57.68
Adam Apollo
Thank you.

57:03.55
karagoodwin
All of um, we hardly even scratch the surface. But thank you so much for your time and everything that you're doing the light that you're shining for being here today.

57:13.20
Adam Apollo
It's really my pleasure and honor. Thank you so much Kara if you guys want to learn more about me, you can just go to Adam Apollo Dot Com or you can so Google my name Adam Apollo and if you want to learn more about our 3 d social operating system dedicated to regenerative impact. Ah, you can go to core network and that's currently where we're running the project under the code name core network and we'll be actually releasing a new site and the new name very soon which we have trademarked but we have to do some of this stuff pretty ninja as you can imagine. 

57:45.00
karagoodwin
I'll have all that info in the show notes so that it's super easy for people to get so wonderful. Thank you so much. Adam.

57:48.67
Adam Apollo

 Thank you, Thank you 

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