183. Upgrading Your Healing Abilities - Sally Knopp

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Why can it be hard for energy healers to affect positive healing change on those they are closest to?

What is the role of the oversoul in your human healing journey?

It was a great joy to connect again with Sally Knopp in this episode! Sally is a multi-diminsional energy healer who blends many different healing modalities and approaches to her own healing art. In this episode she talks about how a recent loss of someone very close to her ignited an upgrade to her healing gifts, but not before making her begin to question if she was actually capable of helping people heal at all.

00:00.00
karagoodwin
Hello and welcome to the meditation conversation I'm your host Kara Goodwin and today I'm really excited to be joined again by Sally Knopp Sally is a multidimensional explorer. And energy healer who has blended renowned modalities to create a powerful healing experience for those needing energy healing or for energy healers wanting to easily remove the sometimes hidden blockages to become even more effective Sally's approaches to healing is igniting the superhuman in you so welcome. Sally I'm so excited to be reconnected with you again.

00:41.15
Sally
Oh thanks Kara for having me I love being here and joining with you. Your audience is amazing and this has been such a wonderful journey for me as well. So yeah.

00:52.43
karagoodwin
Oh it's so great for you to be here. You've been on the podcast a few times now I think this is like number 4 or five four yeah Yeah so each time that you've returned.

01:02.56
Sally
So four Maybe yeah may I don't know I've lost count. How fun is that? ah.

01:12.25
karagoodwin
It's been so fun because it's because there's been an upgrade to your healing work. So um, you and I connected last month and I was fascinated to hear about your latest evolution in the the healing kind of upgrades that you've been getting so.

01:29.82
Sally
Yeah, it's been crazy. We had kind of a tragic event in our family where we lost a family member and it was really difficult for me to accept that I couldn't do more for our loved one? um and it was the strangest.

01:30.20
karagoodwin
Why don't we start there.

01:49.19
Sally
Thing happened. Um I was really you know, questioning myself I think all of us sort of go through that um or like colly am I really helping or is what is going on. Why can I not affect.

01:54.98
karagoodwin
Is.

02:06.16
Sally
Ah, better outcome for our loved one and as I was going through a very difficult time where I was really questioning what I was doing and probably on the bubble of stepping back out of it because it was so difficult.

02:21.11
karagoodwin
Oh wow.

02:25.72
Sally
Lose this loved one very close close family member and in that time I had an extraordinary experience where I had several my past clients who didn't know what I was going through or. Experiencing reaching out to me saying oh I've had some wonderful results. The healing was great now I want to do this. You know when can I talk to you again and if I had just maybe 1 or 2 are like well that's kind of coincidence. But my phone's blowing up that week a past.

03:04.98
karagoodwin
Um, that's amazing.

03:05.19
Sally
Clients reaching out and reassuring me that I had been instrumental in a positive change in their lives which ironically I needed to hear myself to get through that. Vari and then the other irony in all this is that dolores cannon kept coming up in my Youtube videos when I was trying to get through. You know those moments where I just needed some bubble gum for my brain I would jump on. Youtube and dolores cannons out there saying nobody dies before their time and there are exit points and the transition is a point of learning and you know just on and on I'm like okay there is way more going on here and I need to allow this process to. Bold then dolores cannon had said as she has said many times through my training through you know, just connecting with my group at qhht is what is the lesson. What am I to learn which you know that took me to that next. Step what I I to learn. Okay, then download it to me for peace sakes because this is extraordinarily difficult and so the next thing I started getting was for these downloads and I think your audience would probably and.

04:26.90
karagoodwin
Yeah.

04:37.23
Sally
In the download that's where you get this information where you're sort of you're focused somewhere else and all this information begins to flow in and you're like where did that come from. You know.

04:46.51
karagoodwin
Yeah, and it's just a knowing almost well I I would say it's like just this knowing like it's just how things are like you've always known it and you just never even like were aware of it before and it's like yeah I don't know.

05:02.63
Sally
Yeah, yeah.

05:04.54
karagoodwin
If that helps but that's how it feels for me where I'm like yes, it's so um, it becomes so obvious that it's just like oh yeah, of course you know.

05:11.80
Sally
Yeah, yeah, and it was like it stepped it up so much that I was so excited that I had learned something new and it was like a few days after I got home from that horrible. Variance of losing so I had some commitment to a group of people and I was out among this group of people when I realized something inside of me has shifted and I. Began to realize that I was in a very different place than where I was prior to that and I don't know how to explain it because I don't really have words to explain it other than I felt more connected than I ever have before. So. Then it's like oh my gosh Do I have it. You know I had I don't know and I had somebody sit down in front of me and they said oh so you're like a guru you're the master I'm like oh no, no, no no I'm the student. And Heaven forbid I ever say I'm a mess or at anything you know because I feel like this is a journey for us and we need to remain so um in the mindset of a student and yeah, there are. Students who are a little bit more advanced or learned a little bit more that can share with others but I am always going to be Learning. We're always going to be expanding. There's always something new and that's what this told me and you just have to get your ah blockages and barriers out of the way. Had no idea I had so many blockages and barriers until I got back I'm like oh now I know the questions to ask and so I was asking those questions and I started moving those out and that became huge and then of course in that process I did reach out to you. So. Um, and I you know I Thank you for being open saying hey I think I learned something new here. You want to try it and you're like yeah, let's do it. You know like great and since then I've learned actually more so anyway so where did it take you.

07:26.78
karagoodwin
Yeah, yeah. Oh well that's a well It's a great recap. Thank you for sharing all of that and 1 thing before I do go into my experience I want to touch on um that it. That part where you were talking about. You know you had somebody very very dear to you going through something tragic and with their health and you felt and you were trying to work on him and not and ultimately he passed away.

08:01.72
Sally
Yes, yes.

08:08.40
karagoodwin
And so you're you've shared very beautifully the effect that that has on you. Not only are you grieving. But then you're questioning your own power and I I just want to offer for that because it um, it's so timely that we're talking about this. For a couple of reasons and so I feel like other people need to hear this too because a friend of mine just did reiki training well actually had several friends go down for the to Bloomington for this reiki training and take it like together kind of accidentally so it was like everybody and it was like with my old Reiki teacher too. So that was really beautiful and I got some feedback from them and one of them was talking about how she wants me to work on her daughter um because it helped to reignite for her. The possibilities with energy healing and I'd worked with her daughter before and it really helped her and she said she and she made a comment about. She's too emotionally connected and she doesn't think she'd be able to get herself out of the way to be able to help her daughter the way that she wants her to be helped and I thought that was so wise and it was such a beautiful realization.

09:14.34
Sally
So very true.

09:22.62
karagoodwin
But what ended up happening is yesterday afternoon I found out that somebody very very close to me is in the hospital right now and um and it's we're in like a diagnosis phase. So We're not sure really like. What at the moment. Everything is okay, but we really don't know what's coming. Um, there was like a mishap and so we're kind of like waiting um to see how things play out and so I ah was like okay I asked permission. You know I was like can I. Okay, if I do some work in the background and she and she was like yeah yeah, please you know?? Um and I felt like so much more blocked. Than Normal. You know it was like oh my God I can't I mean I was it was so hard to get myself out of the way because I I feel so emotional about what's going on and I'm so concerned and I'm like in. And it's I'm just in a different place than I am.

10:27.51
Sally
I Think it's because we come from a place of desperation. You know we love this person. We care for this person. You know why can't we help them. We help others you know and and I think anytime you come through a layer of fear you're going to.

10:31.51
karagoodwin
Yeah.

10:45.29
karagoodwin
Yeah.

10:45.82
Sally
Yourself and and working on your loved ones you have to be strong enough to step outside of that fear and that's I mean how do you do that I mean I don't know that I maybe I'll learn it. But it's really difficult.

10:59.58
karagoodwin
Yeah, it is really hard and so and I just felt like that was important to sort of highlight that because that is a natural thing and then it can it can affect you like as a. As a healer to be like oh my God I I don't have it anymore I lost it I lost my Mojo but yeah or am I who I think I am you know like maybe this is all like I you know if you don't feel connected like I felt such a.

11:18.20
Sally
Ah.

11:29.93
karagoodwin
It was It was kind of like the easiest way for me to explain it in this moment is like a humanness whereas like it was such an earthly like I am fully experiencing a human experience right now. And when I'm in my full blown healing mode I am reaching beyond that you know I'm like strengthening that connection to the bigger part of me that I am that I have that connection to. But there I bet I Very much am a human too and if I can't get out of my human way my humanness I'm less effective. Um, so. Again, just because you mentioned that and with the the kind of mirrors that I have in my world right now that reiterate what you're talking about I Just know that there have to be people who have been in this situation or are are in this situation or may find themselves in that situation and so it can just be helpful to know that Like. Yep, this is part of it. You know? Yeah yeah, so back to your experience. Um, so you very graciously after we talked you sent me an email the next day and you said.

12:30.88
Sally
It really is yeah.

12:47.82
karagoodwin
You know, hey you know I'm still just trying to to feel this new stuff out and I'd love to kind of work on you if you're up for it and just kind of see what happens and I was like oh my god I'd love that please do it. You know and and. But it was all over email and so I gave you permission and then hours later like I went about my day you went about your day I didn't really think about it I think it was a pretty busy day that day didn't really think about it because I didn't know if you meant like in the next week or so you'd do it or whatever. I got an email from you a few hours later with the rundown and it was like you know this is what I found this looked good this this kind of passed the check then there was this hidden stuff and that needed to be cleared out so I did some stuff now that's happy. And then we went moved on to this system and this was okay and this needed some work and and um so I received the information and and ah what was funny is with mine. There was a lot of hidden like the stuff that you cleared out was hidden stuff. So I guess not surprisingly I was kind of like oh okay. Sure but I didn't have it was hidden. It's hidden for me as well. You know it's like I couldn't say really like oh yeah I I overcame that now you know because I I still didn't have access to it. So I again kind of kept going about my day didn't. Bring much thought to it thought we'd talk about it again when when we reconnected um, but I'm just saying that because of my expectation I really wasn't holding any expectation. Um, and so I go to bed and I and I fall asleep and then I wake up in the night and 1 of my animals I think woke me up I think my dog jumped off the bed or something and woke me up and listeners to this podcast may know may have heard me say before that you know if I'm going to have multidimensional experiences 9 times out of 10 or ninety nine times out of 100 it's Goingnna be. When I am in bed and I'm drifting. You know either trying to fall asleep or woken up in the night or something very very very rarely. Do I have full-b blown multidimensional experiences and meditation funnily enough because meditation's my jam. So. Ah, um, you would think that I could like find those pathways easily in meditation. But for whatever reason it it happens at night and so this was one of those nights I wake up in the night and again usually for me that was also unusual that I would.

15:31.31
karagoodwin
Ah, fall asleep then wake up then have this happen Normally it would be when I'm falling asleep and even then like it's rare I mean it's It's not not rare, but it's more often than not I just go to sleep and these are different from dreams also just to put that disclaimer in there but I started. Having these well known to me now Multidimensional experiences. Ah, usually for me they start with a lot of color. A lot of patterns. It's sometimes it it appears sort of stained glass Like. Um, sometimes it looks more like a middle Eastern tiles but like sort of it. It always has a feeling of like a temple or something like that with and there's often like a dome like I'm in some sort of dome but there are color patterns with. Um, that are repeating and it always reminds me of like tiles or stained glass and then depending on how things progress I may go through like a vortex or a portal or I may it may just all that color may dissolve into space and I may find myself like. It feels like I'm in space and a lot of times there are like ah geometric ah components to what I'm seeing so I started having kind of that type of thing with the colors and I could tell like like I can feel myself in a space. Or that I am the space like and there's no usually no form like no, you know beings that I can See. It's usually more of like colors and shapes and stuff. But what I noticed after a while of kind of doing you know. Experiencing different dimensions and things I was noticing my body and I felt this the deepest piece and stillness right in my core I mean even in my stomach. It was just like and it again like. Meditation's my thing like I know peace like I I invoke peace constantly or or you know what? I just am a pretty peaceful person I mean not 100% of the time but that is I mean I have people who I interact with regularly and they talk about that They feel. Peace around me as Well. You know it kind of is this like just it's not unusual. It's not um, I'm not a stranger to feeling peace but this was New. This was like a new level of peace and stillness.

18:14.54
karagoodwin
And it went on for I want to say 2 hours where even when I was noticing. You know how sometimes or a lot of times for me the minute that I notice something it goes like in meditation like if I am if I'm like ah. Especially early on like if I would notice some light or some color it was like as as soon as I was like oh there's light. It would be gone you know because I'd be trying to like focus in on it and I'd lose it. Um and the same thing with like. These types of experiences. It can be kind of like bringing the conscious mind to it and being like oh I recognize that this is happening it can dissolve and I kind of realized that I had had that expectation because I was like oh that piece I hope I remember it and then I was like it's still there. It's still there. Oh my god it's still there and then it just again went on for a couple of hours and what was an additional beautiful part of this was that I started recognizing that I could bring things into this piece. So. My kids are you know the relationship between my children. For instance, you know they're typical kids at least you know typical is meaning this was how my brother and I were too um, just always picking at each other and so I just brought like. The consciousness of their relationship into that piece and just had them there together like bringing into my awareness this this relationship of my kids in this piece just feeling that it's like being washed like their relationship was being washed. Buy this piece. Um, and I did the same thing I did that for a while and then you know again listeners of this show will know that my daughter has scoliosis so it was and I'm always like you know thinking trying to think of different energetic things to assist with that. So was like oh what I wonder what happens if I bring Leila's spine into this piece and just let that kind of relax everything and infuse it and and then the sky had been very polluted that day. Um, lots of. Lines in the sky. Shall we say and so then I was like okay, let's bring the sky in let's clear the sky like but just get the sky into this piece. Let it be washed. Let it be purified. Let there be you know peace all through the sky and so I was just like kind of thinking of these.

20:57.98
karagoodwin
Things that I'm like what can we do with this What can we? How can we use it and um and I just had this knowing at some point in this experience just this knowing came in it was like this is from Sally like not. Not that this is from Sally it was like this is to do this is because of Sally's work was kind of how it came in so it wasn't like Sally gift bombed you this like Sally and gave you this piece but it was like the work this is the result of. Of what she did and it was very clearly a connection of like what is happening now is related to Sally and so then there was just like overwhelming gratitude for you and that work and that opportunity. Um. And finally I was sharing this with a friend of mine and she was like so what? what did you did you notice anything like any physical effects of that afterwards and I was like I I don't think so like nothing comes to mind and then as I'm telling her I'm like well you know I didn't because again like. Being careful about expectations. So I wasn't really like looking for like oh what did I fix you know? Um, but as I was talking to Emily I was like actually there was like a little movement forward in my kid's relationship the next night where um, my son kind of called out for his sister and she went downstairs and they were having like this just a more mature conversation that was unusual for like it was just like it felt like we were turning a corner where they were. Maturing a little bit and having a different level of conversation where it was like they were really trying to get on a similar plane and it was about like a video game or it was about like a. Tv show or something like that. But it was usually they come at it and it's like how do I get what I want and you don't get what you want, you know that's kind of the par for the course this was more like well if I watch this while you do that then can we do. This other thing that we want to do together later like it was just it was really beautiful and I didn't even like I remember appreciating it at the time but I didn't link it back until I was talking to Emily and I was like oh my god I did see a physical manifestation of this.

23:20.94
Sally
That's wow and that's.

23:32.90
Sally
Yeah, it's like the butterfly effect right? The smallest thing that you do for somebody else can have a ripple effect throughout the universe. So very powerful. Yeah, that's awesome.

23:36.43
karagoodwin
Yeah.

23:40.73
karagoodwin
Um, yes, right? Yeah,. So thank you again. I mean that was really really beautiful I don't know if you want to talk a little bit about like. Where you got to at that time because I know more has come in. But um I think it's fascinating like that hidden piece that came in with the hidden stuff I don't know if you want to expand on that at all.

24:05.84
Sally
Yeah, actually um, my work is a mishmash of a lot of different people who have done a lot of work before me so I would take what they've done and sort of bring it all together like a fire like. Bringing this this piece over here and this piece over here and let's add this piece in and then I get this download of information. Yeah,, that's good, but try this instead and so it's just like okay and it's always starts with the question. How can we. Prove this, you know So my question is with this remote energy healing that we've been doing since Covid because I didn't know I could do it until Covid. It's been so powerful and then it's always asked. Well, how can I improve it and within hours that information is given and it's given in such a way that it sort of um, smacks me hard in the face because I can be a little bit thick. Ah and so when it comes in that. Strong I'm like okay I need to listen to this and test it out to which I reach out to those volunteers I have in my circle and say hey um I Want to try this. What are your thoughts and they're like yeah, do it and they'll say don't tell me anything about it. Just do it. And let me see if I feel a difference which has been so beneficial because that way we're not giving the placebo effect which I'm not opposed to I think anything that works works and you know it's about the healing at the end. Um, However, so I.

25:54.38
karagoodwin
8

25:59.98
Sally
I bring in Edgar Casey and royal rife and dolores cannon and Dr Bruce Lipton and Greg Braden and ah praying medic which is David Hayes and sort of bring it all together and what do they have in common. Because they are all coming from different backgrounds. David Hayes is a christian you've got other people who don't really affiliate with a particular religion but the information's coming through is so strong and powerful some that come into the. Scientists you're like okay so what is that common thread that sort of binds everything together because there is work. That's actually being accomplished and then they begin to say okay this works so how do I improve upon that and it's not.

26:42.53
karagoodwin
And.

26:56.67
Sally
Long before I do get that information for this particular piece though the piece you're talking about is that I learned through and I'm looking up to my certification sorry looking up to dolores cannon and David Hayes who would probably.

27:08.11
karagoodwin
I see.

27:15.13
Sally
B if you put them in the room together and they would have philosophy on the outset they would look like they're 2 opposing different views. But when you listen to them. They're saying the same thing they're using a different language and how they. Press it I say sometimes just a computer language like Mac and my hp you know it's a different operational system with the information that we reach out comes in the same. So I'm thinking that is interesting to me. So. Always wanting to work in the best and highest good. You always set that intention and then um, once I did that I learned um that we have it over soul. So there's the greater part of you the big me and then we have little me or mini meats. Expresses itself into physical form. So if you can imagine. You're this massive brightly large big bubble dolores cannon talks about the overso and a piece of it will express itself through the physical manifest. Care a goodwin sally knopp and we go through an experience in this three D Earth bound place and it can sometimes be difficult and send us out of alignment and. And notice that Reki would help us get feeling a little bit better but we would always end up going back to reiki you know you go through and you have your rakiation. You feel amazing and then a little bit later. You're like oh I feel bad. You know oh I feel bad again. Um, and so you have to kind of go back. So my whole mission in my work is because I'm sixty one years old I feel like and time'm sticking I got to get my messenger now I want to be able to ignite. Everybody's power that. Sally doesn't have special juju. We all have the juju just understanding what is actually happening is key to helping everybody go out there and help somebody else and expand on what I've already learned so instead of. Feeling bad in the future. You're feeling amazing and you can teach this to other people so it was in that questioning way bringing that piece into the question and bringing that into the oversol and finding out what is it that why do I feel good for a little while and.

30:07.67
Sally
And then we begin to not feel good and we have to go back for another session I would love for people to work with me and that they never need me or anyone else again that'd be great I mean who wouldn't want that So that's always been kind of my mission to sort of how do we do that and is that.

30:18.19
karagoodwin
Oh yes.

30:27.10
Sally
Question began to develop and the answers began to come in I understood that the oversoul will protect itself at all cost. So when you croak and when I croak no matter what negative experience I've had that sort of. Days within our energetic field in this three d form. Um, it will the oversol will begin to reabsorb you back and it will go through ah its own healing process but it will wall itself off so you don't contaminate it in. In the process because that's the eternal part of you. The eternal part of you that has always been that will always be and it's not going to allow itself to end up with you know the negative stuff we can carry in in this physical form. So. Always say to my clients imagine that your thumb has gainre and the doctor cannot cure the gangre they have to amputate it to save the body. That's essentially what the over soul is doing. It's not completely disconnecting from it because. When you crope it will reabsorb itself but it will go through its healing process as it does it. But what we can do is actually heal the many me to the oversol now and that is all I did was that I went. Grew and healed the many me kara to the bigger me kera and as it began to align itself back in a balance you were able to have those experiences and it was it was that simple and honestly it took me. 2 minutes 2 minutes is all it took for me to get you to have that experience and it's not like I do it for you. It's just understanding that you can be a facilitator for somebody and create a positive change if that is in their best.

32:24.38
karagoodwin
Smile. Um, yeah, um.

32:43.31
Sally
And highest good and that's your intention.

32:44.21
karagoodwin
Um, yeah, it's It's really amazing. Thank you for sharing that and and subsequently I Want to say a week later or something you contacted me and and you were kind of like hey I just something just. Popped into my field. Do you mind if I clear it and I was like sure and I actually was sort of in a casual meditation because I was on vacation so I was just kind of being still while I was waiting for my family and so I was kind of in a meditative state. And then you, you know you were like whoa it really you know I really cleared it like I really felt it and um and that night again like I think actually did I wake up again I can't remember I think I may have woken up again. After I'd been sleeping or it might have happened as I was falling asleep I can't remember but it was a different experience but another like I saw all these um I saw this sort of big big sphere that looked like it was I could only see it was rotating. But it was like set in something like if if you imagine like there's a big sphere in the ground and it's set into the ground and then as it spins you can only see the part that's like exposed you know. And it was like that but had all these codes and all these colors and all these like shapes and and not just the sphere but like what it was set into as well and there was like all this motion. Like it was it was way too much for me to consciously be able to take in because there was a lot of information I mean information just meaning a lot of like a lot of stuff there. You know like too much for me to process at once consciously. But yeah. Again, you know it was like oh it like it took me a while to connect again like oh because that happened in the morning that you contacted me then it was not until like hours and hours later but again similar a similar kind of multidimensional experience. So.

35:06.35
Sally
It's definitely multi-dimensional for sure and what I have learned since then is that it's like this funnel so we took care of the overso and the many meaning and we useds it back together. We healed it. We balanced it. Doesn't stop there I mean you can you can stop there if you want or you can um, go further so because we are multidimensional beings. The first thing I did was fuse the higher self to the to the mini-me that I found that there was. Some blockages in the spirit complex and some barriers and there was an illness we can find illnesses and hidden illnesses in the spirit. Not that that happened with you but with the sixty plus people I've worked with since you I've been keeping track. With everybody taking very detailed notes and I'm I'm curious. What the feedback is and the feedback is varied. It goes from the feedback is and I'll take you through those steps in a moment but the feedback I'm getting is like wow I was a little light. And to my poor husband was in bed for two days feeling dizzy and nauseated. Ah so it can be very intense and again I think that's because it depends on how sick or out of alignment. You are my husband high blood pressure.

36:26.56
karagoodwin
Um, ah wow.

36:42.61
Sally
Um, definitely you know he's 61 years old so he doesn't take very good care of himself. So you know pre-diabetic and that sort of thing so he's going to probably feel it more so than somebody who does take care of himself like you who will just like oh did I feel lightheaded.

37:01.31
karagoodwin
Um, yeah, yeah.

37:01.72
Sally
Wow so it will hit people a little bit differently but I don't know when it will hit you people will report it and it hits immediately to sometimes up to ten days later again I don't have control over it I don't know that I'm supposed to I think the higher. Will allow the healing that you're supposed to have in the in the time you're supposed to have it. So I guess I'm trusting god the universe the over soul the bigger you to do what it does because all I am is the facilitator. So what I found.

37:36.38
karagoodwin
Right.

37:40.70
Sally
Was that we heel the overso to the the mini-me we look at the spirit body. We look at the mind body. We look at the physical body and then we go into why prayy and medic sort of stucks in here. And I didn't know that this was a thing until I opened my mind and this is what's so important I think we all tend to get stuck in our modalities are the only modalities so we close out other modalities and I would encourage everyone be open to what somebody else is saying even if they don't. Your belief system because they actually have something valid to say that could actually balance out what you are doing in your world. Um, praying medic David Hayes love him I would suggest people follow him. He's got. Great information out there for those people who want to learn more about healing. He talked about um that there is an accuser in the court of heaven I believe he has that ah book on that so you can probably find. Amazon or someplace. But what he was saying was that there's an accuser in the court of heaven and you have to go before the court of heaven and admit guilt and ask where your accuser to be removed now I I walk a different. Path than he does in my mind set but some people may say that's a demon I think it's for me personally I feel like that's our higher self judging ourselves and we're just saying yeah I'm guilty of that because. That's the hidden part. That's the part. We don't like to admit about ourselves the part where you have to look in the mirror and say yeah I own that mistake you know and we we start accusing ourselves even though on the conscious side we may be in denial of that block it out. Don't pay attention to it never happened. But the other soul of your is like oh yes, you did do it and you better own it and we're going to keep making you sick until you do own it and you know because the the subconscious mind will continue to give you messaging until you deal with it and it.

40:08.19
karagoodwin
E.

40:11.28
Sally
Again I take that as the accuser in heaven now everybody has to put that in their own personal box for what it does for them. What that means what I can tell you is no matter what my client's belief systems are and I work with people as far away as Kuwait and I do this. Same thing and they will say they have come back I cannot believe how much better I feel since this piece has been moved, not knowing what piece I moved so there is something to it. So don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

40:47.58
karagoodwin
You.

40:49.47
Sally
So to Speak. Um, so once I get the accuser removed and going before the court of heaven I found Um, the next thing I ask is okay is the personality Wholeness Happy. So I'll go through my check systems is the. Aren't body. Happy Yes is a mind. Body happy is the physical body that well we go through kinesiology right? So you're just kind of tuned into the other person remember everybody has their own frequency. Everything is frequency. So.

41:10.77
karagoodwin
And how do you get those answers.

41:29.11
Sally
Everybody has their own frequency like every radio station has their own frequency so you are actually turned into them but there is a process by which you go through to make sure you're tuned into that person and you're not tuned into something that isn't you. That's deceiving you so there is a process that you go. But then carra you have to take it further because again, it's this bigger funnel at the top and it goes down to smaller smaller smaller into the minutia and this is what happened so I always test out on me first.

42:04.46
karagoodwin
And.

42:07.30
Sally
So in the process I'm teaching somebody I coach people and we're on a Zoom call and she's in front of me and I said oh I've been given this information again going down to the minutiae I found that I had once I test. Bigger stuff and it shows. It's all happy then I have to go and see is there a localized illness in I had a little bit of localized illness in my pancreas now I was told a few years ago that I would have to have my gallbladder removed. Well. I'm I'm a big baby and I don't want to be in surgery I thought but let me see if I can move this on my own and I haven't had any trouble with my gob ladder and I kept thinking well my gobladder's happy but yet there's this something going on here that felt like it was my gob ladder this is where I argue with myself. My kinesiology and it kept saying no, it's your pancreas and it turned out. It was a localized illness in my pancreas I never would have gotten to localized illness had I not removed those bigger upper layers First you've got. Get rid of the junk on top before you can see what's going on in the the minutia. So I thought that's where it would end well I moved that out and then I moved down I so had some hidden illnesses in my pancers and moved that out I like oh that's pretty good. Yeah, that's. Significantly better. But there's still something there and I'm like what is still there. Why am I still feeling this something and what I have learned is with me and my healing journey from myself and going through all this um that. They're going to continue allowing something to linger in me until I get the lesson of what they're trying to teach me so and they're they're showing me. It's beautiful. How it's happening and they're giving me it in layers because the layers are so important because sometimes I have to. Back to the upper layers to get something else figured out to get rid of the lower layer and I know that's kind of convoluted that as we go through it as we know more about it. Um I think it will sharpen and we'll learn and everybody can tune in say okay, what's going on here. It's like the Hundredth monkey. You know once I learn it somebody else is going to learn it and we're just all going to sort of figure this out and I found out that I had a dark spirit in my pancreas and I'm like this is so weird like what is this dark spirit I'm I you know and I is it like a.

44:38.75
karagoodwin
Is.

44:54.39
Sally
Demon and and like no, it's not a demon is it like an entity. No, it's not that or said but it's a dark spirit. Yeah, it's a dark spirit I'm like so this is where I'm thinking if I had cameras on in the room and I had doctors watching me, they would be coming in with the you know jacket and. Perhaps because I'm arguing with myself like what is this and I had to walk away a few days but yet I had this lingering going on and I'm like okay I guess I better listen to it so when I'm working with my gal I said okay I've been told given. Whatever this information that I've got to clear this dark spirit and that it's living here in my pancreas and all I know is that it's a very low vibrational energy that's disrupting the cells in my pancreas that is about as clear as I got so I don't know what that.

45:46.42
karagoodwin
Whose.

45:51.96
Sally
Means what box to put it in sometimes you just say okay I'm given this let's go through the process of healing it. We go through the process of healing I'm gonna have her on my comfy sundays and we're gonna talk about this because she witnessed the change in my face and my head just about. Rot on my desk like whoa what happened yes and I got so dizzy afterwards I had to pause the video and crawl to my couch and lay down and calmly heads were like.

46:13.98
karagoodwin
Really.

46:26.44
karagoodwin
Um, ah, really really.

46:29.43
Sally
I don't know what's just happened and I was dizzy for days but I will tell you I feel amazing. Um, like that is crazy what happened but then um. I did the same thing with my poor hebby and I'm you know, healing him. So then this takes us back to why they gave me the layers on how to do this, you know, clearing out the spirit body and all these other I was given like a list of functions to look at as I learned about all these things. Clearing the spirit body the mind body the physical body and given a list of functions suddenly I realized that this what I did and this is why I always work on me first to get volunteers hey this could happen um is that I sent a piece of my so. Spirit body disconnected from my physical body and there was a distortion of about 3% and once I brought everything back together. I wasn't dizzy and then I found my balance function wasn't happy. So i. Got through the balance function I haven't had any problems since so going back to my volunteers hey what's going on with you well I felt dizzy. Okay, did you get over it. Yeah I got over it except for those who are dealing who are really really sick people with blood sugar. High blood pressure you know gallbladder payris whatever um, us older folk is that more time to you have more gunk packed in and we're the ones who had more dizziness and once I I checked everybody. Yeah, there was this disconnection between the.

48:11.31
karagoodwin
And.

48:24.44
Sally
Body and the physical body by about 3% reunite that do the balance function get that rebalance and then they were fine who knew you know and this has just come on in the last couple of weeks I'm like this is this has been such a beautiful.

48:32.13
karagoodwin
Really.

48:43.72
Sally
Journey that once you get that cleared people are like oh I have the most fabulous vivid dreams I'm sleeping better. You know I've had people who have been diagnosed with ptsd who feel like they have had the best nights of sleep that they've had in years. Um I will also offer this I'm no longer on my thyroid medicine and my doctor keeps saying nobody comes off your thyroid medicine sally and I said yeah but I don't need it and in fact, when I got off of it.

49:08.76
karagoodwin
Wow.

49:21.30
Sally
My brain fog lifted and I've been on it for years and she goes what does it create brain fog I'm like okay well I don't know you're the doctor doc you know I'm just saying I don't need it and I feel better and so she's got me going to get blood work every three months

49:29.23
karagoodwin
Yeah, your experience.

49:40.55
Sally
Because she doesn't believe I can be off of it so far. My blood works been very very good and she says well I don't know how this happened I said well I don't know either. But this is why what? I can tell people if you're going to engage in energy healing with me or anybody else. It is. So important that you stay with your medical professional and make sure that they are monitoring you through that process because you don't want to take medication your body doesn't need but you don't want to come off of it without them helping you. Okay.

50:17.26
karagoodwin
Um, yeah.

50:19.52
Sally
I cannot stress that enough I don't care if it's me or any other person who does rake or energy healing please make sure you continue to work with your medical professional in the process. We are just 1 arrow in the quiver of healing.

50:29.12
karagoodwin
I agree. Yeah I agree a hundred percent I had a doctor's appointment this morning. So I'm I'm right there with you and it was funny because she was like I was so surprised to see your name on the list because you never come in here and I was like. Yeah I need you to look at something and I I wasn't sure even how to make the appointment if it wasn't like a blood draw just to like stay on top of my numbers and like see that I'm not like over supplementing or anything. But yeah, um, you know we all.

50:52.92
Sally
Ah.

51:04.59
karagoodwin
It's a beautiful point that we we have all of these tools and there is definitely a time and a place for somebody with a different type of expertise that includes you know medication and things like that as we need it. Um.

51:17.34
Sally
And yeah, don't just there are a lot of good doctors out there and nurse practitioners who who kind of work the way we work where they're into the energy healing. They do understand it. They do understand about hypnosis and meditation. But.

51:32.74
karagoodwin
This.

51:36.10
Sally
And I know that there's been a lot of bad things that have come out recently. But my doctor's been very very good and and she listens to me. So if you don't have a doctor that's listening to you find a doctor that will you know keep searching because it's.

51:42.15
karagoodwin
No.

51:49.70
karagoodwin
Yeah, absolutely.

51:55.60
Sally
Not just Sally that's the facilitator that can hopefully get you off of your medications I'm not a doctor and I would never tell you to get off your medications I will always defer you back to your medical professional because only they and you can say.

52:00.88
karagoodwin
Yeah.

52:13.79
Sally
If you need the medication. So again I Just really really really want to iterate that with people if it's me or anybody else make sure you've got your whole package brought together because we are all working toward the same goal and that is to feel better.

52:14.50
karagoodwin
Right.

52:21.60
karagoodwin
Um, yeah, yeah, I'm right right? and it's a beautiful point and just you know finding the right person I think that's such a. I've had to do that where I'm like you know I recognize in a couple of different specialties where I'm like okay we're clearly you know I don't have the conversation with them. You know I don't it doesn't have to be confrontational, but just recognizing like okay we're coming at things from 2 totally different world views. And there are a lot of doctors out there. So you know, just be patient and do find that right person who's who's a reflection because we have to be our own advocate. So as we learn more. You know the the white lab coat. You know strictly science. And the you know the refusal of understanding that there's more than the physical body. Um, you know that may not resonate and if so that just means that you you want to find a different connection. You know that it's and it's important to do so. Um, to be your own health advocate. You know that includes like am I aligned with the person who's standing in front of me trying to diagnose me. So.

53:41.33
Sally
So well and I will say just in my own experience with my loved one that passed away in Omaha that the Clarkson Hospital that he was at I see you in polinary the young doctors. There were embracing consciousness they were embracing the things that I was talking about. So I think it's beginning to hit a lot of the younger doctors and that was so refreshing. You know because I sort of expected that.

54:13.44
karagoodwin
Yes.

54:18.23
Sally
Be met with resistance and when I was what I was met with in my experience with them was that yeah you know there's a lot of healing that can take place and you know how do we incorporate? what we're doing and with what you're doing. Um, to really come together and and I and I loved that Shift. It was so Uplifting. That's the part that gave me some really beautiful hope that there are good doctors out there that we actually do think a lot like we do.

54:39.64
karagoodwin
Yeah. Um, yeah.

54:53.18
Sally
But you know what if you go in and have an accent and you cut your arm off, You're not going to call me for kealing. You know you need a doctor. So.

54:57.51
karagoodwin
Right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely Well, the time has gone so fast. Um, and I so I have more you'll have to come back because you seem to be in a constant accelerated. Um. Learning and embodiment and so I love when you come on and share. But in the meantime how can people find out more about you and connect with you.

55:26.60
Sally
Oh yeah, yeah, um, just reach out to me on my website http://sallykop.com um, or you can text me phone calls are hard I work with a lot of people. We do our sessions on my phone sometimes at the end of the day I'm pretty tired so text messaging is the best way my phone number is on my website http://sallyknopp.com.

56:01.40
karagoodwin
Okay, and you mentioned a Facebook group I think too.

56:05.59
Sally
Yeah, um, my Facebook is just Sally Knomp on there I'm not real savvy when it comes to social media like I said I'm a boomer ah and it is hard to come out to space.

57:59.97
Sally
Ripple effect. So. Yeah, Sally Knop yeah comfy sundays. Yeah yeah.

58:17.89
karagoodwin
Well, what a an amazing conversation. Thank you so much. Sally thanks for everything that you're doing. Thank you for the beautiful experiences that you've facilitated for me and I can't wait to connect again soon.

58:33.17
Sally
Well thanks for having me I've enjoyed this and I can't wait to expand on what I've learned because Holy Cow I am learning new stuff every day and all your listeners have to do is ask where they'll get their own downloads.

58:48.65
karagoodwin
That's beautiful.

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